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[[AoL]Demandred]

Come here to discuss the limits in place on the combat server - this will be pinned, of course.

I'll post in a while the CURRENT standing limits for the server. Yes, that's right - you get to see what the ACTUAL cvars are set to!!!

This is the explanation in brief as per the plugin itself for the cvars:

* Cvars (name/default value/description) : 
*  amx_combolimiter (1) - Enable/Disable limiter
*
*  limit_*_* 
*
*  I.E. : limit_gorge_max, limit_gogre_min,...
*
*  Where the first * is either - gorge, lerk, fade, onos, focusfade, jp, ha, hmg, gl
*
*  And the second * is either -  max, min, prop, wait, lvl, frags - where:
*  	max - Maximum people allowed to get that upgrade
*  	min - Minimum amount of people on the opposite team required to get that upgrade
*  	prop - The ratio of marines/aliens required to get that upgrade
*    	Example: For 1:3 Onos to Marine ratio, 1 onos for every 3 marines...
*      	limit_onos_prop 3
*  	wait - Time in minutes before upgrade is unblocked
*  	lvl - Minimum level required to get that upgrade
*  	frags - Minimum amount of kills required to get that upgrade
*
*  Also features Focus Fades! (idea from headcrab)
*  Set to -1 to disable that check
*  If prop is set -1 or 0 it'll disable that check (doesn't make sense if you need 0 people to go gorge)
*  If min is set -1 or 0 it'll disable that check (doesn't make sense if you need 0 people to go gorge)
*  Setting max to 0 will disable that upgrade

limit_gorge_max "-1"
limit_lerk_max "-1"
limit_fade_max "-1"
limit_onos_max "3"

limit_gorge_min "-1"
limit_lerk_min "2"
limit_fade_min "3"
limit_onos_min "6"

limit_gorge_prop "-1"
limit_lerk_prop "-1"
limit_fade_prop "2"
limit_onos_prop "4"

limit_gorge_wait "-1"
limit_lerk_wait "-1"
limit_fade_wait "3"
limit_onos_wait "5"

limit_gorge_lvl "-1"
limit_lerk_lvl "4"
limit_fade_lvl "8"
limit_onos_lvl "10"

limit_gorge_frags "-1"
limit_lerk_frags "4"
limit_fade_frags "8"
limit_onos_frags "12"

limit_focusfade_max "-1"
limit_focusfade_min "-1"
limit_focusfade_prop "-1"
limit_focusfade_wait "-1"
limit_focusfade_lvl "-1"
limit_focusfade_frags "-1"

limit_jp_max "6"
limit_ha_max "6"
limit_hmg_max "5"
limit_gl_max "3"

limit_jp_min "3"
limit_ha_min "2"
limit_hmg_min "4"
limit_gl_min "5"

limit_jp_prop "2"
limit_ha_prop "2"
limit_hmg_prop "-1"
limit_gl_prop "3"

limit_jp_wait "5"
limit_ha_wait "3"
limit_hmg_wait "4"
limit_gl_wait "5"

limit_jp_lvl "8"
limit_ha_lvl "6"
limit_hmg_lvl "6"
limit_gl_lvl "8"

limit_jp_frags "10"
limit_ha_frags "10"
limit_hmg_frags "8"
limit_gl_frags "12"

-Dem

[Zero]

less point requirements for static,3 gls,3 onos, hmmm i dont no what else oh ya bigger time limit

[GET TO THE CHOPPER!]

don't limit # of GL's, raise onos limit and lower static req. or lower onos limit and raise static req., bigger time limit would help


or you could make it 3 gl's, 3 onos, and make static and thinkened skin req. the same

[[AoL]Demandred]

Okay, so I have two people in agreement about the time limit - I've already seriously considered raising it to 45 minutes or an hour max . . .

I'll be putting up some polls here soon, as well, on thoughts for the cvar levels - oh, and I'm updating the original post with the cvars now.

[[AoL]Bob the Burrito]

Put me down for 45 mins or an Hour also.

[Zero]

before all this should happen we need to revive the server because its been empty for soooo long

[GET TO THE CHOPPER!]

I've been tryin to play there during the day, but no one joins, I've changed the cvars a bit to what might look a lil better, and at leasta 45 min time limit would be good

limit_gorge_max "-1"
limit_lerk_max "-1"
limit_fade_max "-1"
limit_onos_max "3"

limit_gorge_min "-1"
limit_lerk_min "2"
limit_fade_min "4"
limit_onos_min "6"

limit_gorge_prop "-1"
limit_lerk_prop "-1"
limit_fade_prop "2"
limit_onos_prop "4"

limit_gorge_wait "-1"
limit_lerk_wait "-1"
limit_fade_wait "5"
limit_onos_wait "10"

limit_gorge_lvl "-1"
limit_lerk_lvl "4"
limit_fade_lvl "8"
limit_onos_lvl "10"

limit_gorge_frags "-1"
limit_lerk_frags "4"
limit_fade_frags "8"
limit_onos_frags "12"

limit_focusfade_max "3"
limit_focusfade_min "-1"
limit_focusfade_prop "-1"
limit_focusfade_wait "-1"
limit_focusfade_lvl "-1"
limit_focusfade_frags "-1"

limit_jp_max "4"
limit_ha_max "6"
limit_hmg_max "5"
limit_gl_max "3"

limit_jp_min "5"
limit_ha_min "2"
limit_hmg_min "4"
limit_gl_min "5"

limit_jp_prop "2"
limit_ha_prop "2"
limit_hmg_prop "-1"
limit_gl_prop "3"

limit_jp_wait "5"
limit_ha_wait "3"
limit_hmg_wait "4"
limit_gl_wait "6"

limit_jp_lvl "8"
limit_ha_lvl "5"
limit_hmg_lvl "5"
limit_gl_lvl "8"

limit_jp_frags "10"
limit_ha_frags "8"
limit_hmg_frags "8"
limit_gl_frags "12"

[[AoL]Demandred]

GET TO THE CHOPPER!, on Jun 17 2005, 04:04 PM, said:

I've been tryin to play there during the day, but no one joins, I've changed the cvars a bit to what might look a lil better, and at leasta 45 min time limit would be good

limit_gorge_max "-1"
limit_lerk_max "-1"
limit_fade_max "-1"
limit_onos_max "3"

limit_gorge_min "-1"
limit_lerk_min "2"
limit_fade_min "4"
limit_onos_min "6"

limit_gorge_prop "-1"
limit_lerk_prop "-1"
limit_fade_prop "2"
limit_onos_prop "4"

limit_gorge_wait "-1"
limit_lerk_wait "-1"
limit_fade_wait "5"
limit_onos_wait "10"

limit_gorge_lvl "-1"
limit_lerk_lvl "4"
limit_fade_lvl "8"
limit_onos_lvl "10"

limit_gorge_frags "-1"
limit_lerk_frags "4"
limit_fade_frags "8"
limit_onos_frags "12"

limit_focusfade_max "3"
limit_focusfade_min "-1"
limit_focusfade_prop "-1"
limit_focusfade_wait "-1"
limit_focusfade_lvl "-1"
limit_focusfade_frags "-1"

limit_jp_max "4"
limit_ha_max "6"
limit_hmg_max "5"
limit_gl_max "3"

limit_jp_min "5"
limit_ha_min "2"
limit_hmg_min "4"
limit_gl_min "5"

limit_jp_prop "2"
limit_ha_prop "2"
limit_hmg_prop "-1"
limit_gl_prop "3"

limit_jp_wait "5"
limit_ha_wait "3"
limit_hmg_wait "4"
limit_gl_wait "6"

limit_jp_lvl "8"
limit_ha_lvl "5"
limit_hmg_lvl "5"
limit_gl_lvl "8"

limit_jp_frags "10"
limit_ha_frags "8"
limit_hmg_frags "8"
limit_gl_frags "12"

Awesome feedback so far, people - keep up the conversation - and bring your friends here! We're tossing back and forth ideas of how to give some benefits to server regulars Reserved slots (with an icon!!!) and things like that.

Dem

[L2D|Shadow]

i already get a icon....hehe
now i just need to start playing ns again

Shad

[GET TO THE CHOPPER!]

For some reason your server has trouble holding players, there were quite a few people earier, but after a few maps, everyone was gone, I stuck around hoping someone else would come, but no one ever did

[[AoL]Demandred]

Two quick notes on your proposed changes:

Note 1) I won't decrease JP max - 6 JPs is not too many. Right now, server runs with a nominal max of 26 people (28 slots, two reserved), so max team size is 13, typically. With max 6 of each JP and Heavy, that still leaves one person unable to do either . . . so I'm probably going to UP the number of JPs available to 7. I'm sorry, but while a VERY GOOD JPer can tilt the scales and destroy an alien team, the same is true for a very good lerker. Or an awesome fade. More likely than not, you'll never have 7 INSANE JPs all at once on a team.

Note 2) More on JPs. If there is an insane lerk . . . . game over in small games. I'm not going to put many limits on lerk, and I have REMOVED most of the ones I had. It was stupid to have limits on lerk, honestly. I left a FEW things, but not much. So the JPs aren't as over-powered as you might think, in the end.

-Dem

[[AoL]Demandred]

Okay, new limits in place now:

limit_gorge_max "-1"
limit_lerk_max "-1"
limit_fade_max "-1"
limit_onos_max "3"

limit_gorge_min "-1"
limit_lerk_min "2"
limit_fade_min "4"
limit_onos_min "6"

limit_gorge_prop "-1"
limit_lerk_prop "-1"
limit_fade_prop "2"
limit_onos_prop "4"

limit_gorge_wait "-1"
limit_lerk_wait "-1"
limit_fade_wait "5"
limit_onos_wait "10"

limit_gorge_lvl "-1"
limit_lerk_lvl "-1"
limit_fade_lvl "7"
limit_onos_lvl "9"

limit_gorge_frags "-1"
limit_lerk_frags "-1"
limit_fade_frags "5"
limit_onos_frags "10"

limit_focusfade_max "3"
limit_focusfade_min "5"
limit_focusfade_prop "4"
limit_focusfade_wait "10"
limit_focusfade_lvl "-1"
limit_focusfade_frags "-1"

limit_jp_max "7"
limit_ha_max "7"
limit_hmg_max "5"
limit_gl_max "3"

limit_jp_min "3"
limit_ha_min "2"
limit_hmg_min "4"
limit_gl_min "5"

limit_jp_prop "2"
limit_ha_prop "2"
limit_hmg_prop "2"
limit_gl_prop "3"

limit_jp_wait "5"
limit_ha_wait "3"
limit_hmg_wait "4"
limit_gl_wait "6"

limit_jp_lvl "8"
limit_ha_lvl "-1"
limit_hmg_lvl "-1"
limit_gl_lvl "8"

limit_jp_frags "8"
limit_ha_frags "-1"
limit_hmg_frags "-1"
limit_gl_frags "8"

I made a few changes. Hopefully this helps out some more.

You'll notice a lot of the frag reqs are gone.

[[AoL]Demandred]

There will be more tweaking, so let's keep up the awesome input, folks!!!

[GET TO THE CHOPPER!]

Have you edited the swear filter yet Demandred? Said you were going to and asked me to remind you, so here it is

[Zero]

we got to revive the server agian